Next, they return to the topic of lying and repeat the idea that lying should only be tolerated as a necessary tool for the benefit of the city.For this reason, he also thinks they shouldn't allow too much laughter, either. Socrates also objects to grieving because it is an immoderate and ostentatious show of emotion, something he doesn't think is very macho or philosophical.If death is an honorable and necessary reality, intelligent people aren't going to be sad that someone else has died.
They also agree that no poetry should be allowed which shows role models and heroes lamenting or grieving about the death of a loved one.This means eliminating any poetic moment (and there are lots in Homer) in which death is described negatively or in which the afterlife is described as bad.Picking up from their previous discussion on poetry and what it should portray, Socrates and friends agree that in order to make sure the citizens of this city are brave, they'll need to make sure that death isn't described as scary.
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